Biblically WHO are God's chosen people and HOW does God choose his people?

Before continuing into this biblical understanding of who "God's chosen people" really are I MUST ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT SOCIAL MEDIA GET'S WRONG AND MISAPPLIES TO ANYONE TELLING A TRUTH.

I understand what "hateful conduct" is however the meaning is wrongfully placed upon anyone telling the truth plainly seen in scripture and we have no recourse to fight against it because they set themselves up as the sole interpreters of truth.

It is in fact the SELF APOINTED "SOCIAL MEDIA" OWNERS AND THOSE THEY HIRE TO INTERPRET TRUTH THAT ARE USING HATEFULL ATTACKS AGAINST TRUTH.

It is a Satanically inspired insertion of false and disconnected facts of that information since 1948 that has confused the concept of "The Chosen People" that has caused the Church to think wrongly about not only WHO IS CHOSEN but how God chose them in the first place!

https://thejusticecometh.substack.com/p/biblical-israel-vs-modern-israel

Hosea 2:15 is a verse rich with imagery and layered meaning, rooted in the context of the prophet Hosea’s message to Israel.

We can see a great picture of what God is doing to UNITE true Israel to its original meaning :

This verse comes from a section where God is speaking through Hosea about His relationship with Israel, often portrayed as an unfaithful wife whom God promises to woo back and restore BUT HOW IS GOD DOING THAT?

Here, “I will give her her vineyards from there” suggests a restoration of blessings and abundance—vineyards symbolizing prosperity and joy.

TRUE ISRAEL IS NOT ROOTED IN PHYSICAL OWNERSHIP OF LAND THAT'S A SMALL PART OF THE BLESSING BUT IT DOESN'T DEFINE BEING GOD'S PEOPLE; the Gentiles were also promised lands but none of them were of God's chosen people.

In other words owning Land in the "Promised Land" shown to Abraham IS NOT PROOF THOSE WHO OWN IT NOW WERE CHOSEN BY GOD TO OWN IT!

 
So LAND doesn't define WHO GOD'S CHOSEN ARE any more than it defines who GOD'S ENEMIES ARE that definition is ONLY OF A SPIRITUAL NATURE that of holding faith and trust in his commands or REBELLING AGAINST HIS WORD.

 
Israel is much bigger in scope than just land which if all were known encompasses the whole earth at the time not just a tiny bit of real estate in the Mideast. God intended for his people to inhabit the whole creation before the fall!

God intended for Adam to inherit the whole earth before his fall; but his fall interrupted God's plan so he had to chose someone based upon his Faith not his background as a Pagan!

Romans 2:28-29

"For he is 👉NOT a [real] Jew👈 who is only one outwardly and publicly, nor is [true] circumcision something external and physical."

👉"But he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and [true] circumcision is of the heart, a spiritual and not a literal [matter]. His praise is not from men but from God."👈

🔥 Israel was too receive from an unexpected place or situation of God's making but the fraudulent creation by the Rothchild's THAT THE CHURCH THINKS IS ISRAEL IS IN FACT "The Synagogue of Satan" that God warned of! 

The Nation of Israel we all look at today is a SECULAR not a religious Nation it contains multiple religious sects of Jew and Gentile beliefs but is controlled overall by a Secular based government based upon how God choses his People that alone disqualifies SECULAR NATIONS as his chosen ones since he looks at the heart but he does use those secular Nations to bring about his plan for his chosen.

1 Samuel 16:7

"But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

Revelation 3:9 

"Take note, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—I will make them come and bow down at your feet and make them know [without any doubt] that I have loved you." 

Revelation 2:9 

"‘I know your suffering and your poverty (but you are rich), and how you are blasphemed and slandered by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan [they are Jews only by blood, and do not believe and truly honor the God whom they claim to worship]." 

Are there real Jews living in this Secular Nation?

YES!

WORLDWIDE TRUE JEWS ARE BIBLICALLY DOING WHAT GOD REQUIRES ACCEPTING YESHUA AS MESSIAH BOTH JEW AND GENTILE AS ONE BODY. 

Neither Jew nor Gentile IN YESHUA is chosen to be separate entities we are ONE NEW MAN not one in a nation apart only the fake are SECULAR ISRAEL!

SECULAR ISRAEL IS A NEST OF CORRUPTION CREATED TO BE JUST THAT, WHILE THE CHURCH WAS TAUGHT THAT JUST BEING BORN A JEW MEANT THEY ARE CHOSEN. 

The problem with that teaching is its never taught in scripture even once. 

Physical birth is not a sign of God's acceptance: Rather OBEDIENCE TO HIS LAWS WAS THE FACTOR IN GOD'S CALLING AT ALL TIMES. 

God looks at the heart of Faith not the biological bloodline, somewhere we lost the context amidst false teachings and bad doctrines!

BEING CHOSEN has nothing to do with skin color or cultural belief ALL OF MANKIND IS OF ONE BLOOD AND ONE RACE so its not God's intent to chose man made ideas but to BRING FROM HEAVEN HIS IDEA AND PLANT IT IN THE EARTH.

Now back to Hosea: The phrase “from there” hints that this renewal comes out of a low point, a place of discipline or hardship.

The “Valley of Achor” is key.

Historically, it’s tied to Joshua 7, where Achan’s sin (stealing devoted items [IDOLS] after Jericho’s fall) brought judgment on Israel, and he was executed there.

Achor means “trouble” in Hebrew, so the valley became a symbol of failure and punishment.

But here, God flips that—it becomes a “door of hope and expectation.”

This is a promise that even a place of past trouble will transform into an entryway to something better, a time when God’s favor returns.

The mention of singing “as in the days of her youth” and “the day when she came up from the land of Egypt” evokes Israel’s early, innocent days of faith.

Think of the Exodus—after the Red Sea crossing, when Miriam and the people sang in triumph (Exodus 15). 

It’s a picture of renewed joy, responsiveness, and closeness with God, like a honeymoon phase restored after a rough patch.

So, in essence, this verse is God saying:

“I’ll turn her losses into gains, her shame into hope, and bring her back to a place of delight and trust in Me, like it was at the start.”

It’s about redemption, not just patching things up WITH A QUICK FIX but making them better than they were before.

Just as Q said that what needed to be done had to be done correctly and done right not just quickly done without getting too the core issues surrounding the problems!

@POTUS is rooting out the Physical problems that have caused America's spiritual curse and its the Churches job NOW to do its job in the redemptive process OF SPIRITUAL WARFARE to break the Curses from continuing going forward!

Think about the promise to Abraham HOW COULD A PEOPLE AS VAST AS THE SAND OF THE SEA AND NUMBERED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN BE LIMITED TO A LITTLE SLIVER OF LAND FOREVER?

The picture God painted of who he chose is so much more than what's been explained as doctrine- God has bigger plans than our small minded ideas of blessing!

Deuteronomy 7

“When the Lord your God brings you into the land which you are entering to possess, and has cleared away many nations before you, the Hittite and the Girgashite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite, seven nations greater and mightier than you, and when the Lord your God gives them over to you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall not make a covenant (treaty) with them nor show mercy and compassion to them. 

You shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughter to his son, nor shall you take his daughter for your son; ...

As is clear God's RULES to his people given here were later ignored and his laws broken, they were not hard rules to follow but that doesn't seem to matter to these people who were in complete disobedience and therefore THOSE specific individuals in disobedience were not of his chosen ones.

BECAUSE GOD CHOSES BASED UPON THE HEART; 

BASED UPON FAITH IN HIS WORDS; 

BASED UPON OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS ONLY; 

NOT UPON THE LAND THEY DWELL IN; 

NOT UPON WHO THEY CLAIM TO BE; 

NOT UPON BLOODLINE ALONE 

BUT TAKEN FROM THE BLOODLINE OF PURE FAITH BASED OBEDIENCE LIKE ABRAHAM!

Genesis 18-19

"And the Lord said, Shall I hide from Abraham [My friend and servant] what I am going to do, since Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed through him and shall bless themselves by him?"

CLEARLY THE SEED OF ABRAHAM WAS TO BE WORLDWIDE; THE SEED WAR WAS SPIRITUAL BUT ALSO PHYSICAL TO ELIMINATE GOD'S SEED THROUGH ABRAHAM BY MESSING WITH ITS DNA.

Hosea’s a goldmine for symbolic language, and this verse ties into a web of meanings that echo through Scripture.

1. Vineyards as Covenant Blessing:

KEEP in mind here that this was the very thing Joshua and Caleb returned from their spying out of the promised land with; to show forth what God had given them- they rejected this sign of Covenant.

Beyond just prosperity, vineyards often symbolize God’s covenant relationship with His people. 

In Deuteronomy 8:8, they’re part of the Promised Land’s bounty—signs of God’s faithfulness. 

Here, restoring “her vineyards” could hint at renewing that intimate bond, not just giving material wealth.

 It’s like God saying, “I’m bringing back the good times we had together.”

2. Valley of Achor as Transformation:

We already touched on Achor meaning “trouble,” but prophetically, its shift to a “door of hope” mirrors other biblical turnarounds. 

Think Isaiah 65:10, where desolate places like Sharon and Achor become fertile again in the Messianic age. 

It’s a symbol of God’s habit of flipping curses into blessings—death to life, exile to homecoming. 

Some see this as pointing beyond Israel to a future redemption for all creation.

3. Door of Hope:

Doors in prophecy often mark transitions or access to something new. 

Revelation 3:8 has an “open door” for opportunity, and in Hosea, this door could symbolize a threshold—crossing from judgment to mercy. 

It’s less about a literal gate and more about a moment when everything changes, a pivot point in the story.

4. Singing and Youth:

The return to “days of her youth” and singing isn’t just nostalgia—it’s a prophetic nod to spiritual renewal. 

Singing ties to joy and worship (like in Psalms or Zephaniah 3:17, where God sings over His people).

 The “day she came up from Egypt” isn’t just a throwback; it’s a symbol of deliverance. 

Egypt’s always the big bad guy in Israel’s story—slavery, oppression—so this is about liberation, a new exodus. 

Some interpreters even link it to a future Messianic deliverance, where God’s people rejoice again.

5. Egypt as the World:

On a deeper level, Egypt often stands for the world’s pull—sin, bondage, anything that traps you or blocks you from surrendering to God. 

The promise of singing as they did leaving Egypt could symbolize breaking free from spiritual captivity.

It’s not just historical; it’s a pattern.

Hosea’s audience would’ve heard this as a call to ditch their idols (like the Baal worship they’d fallen into) and return to God. Notice this clearly: UNLESS THEY GAVE UP THEIR IDOL'S AND RETURNED TO GOD, clear language stating that God choses based upon your surrendering YOUR LIFE to his control.

In the bigger picture of Hosea, these symbols weave into the book’s marriage metaphor—

Israel as the wayward bride, God as the relentless husband waiting for their spiritual awakening to the promises made to Abraham. They divorced themselves from the promise through through disobedience to his commands out of willful carelessness of this very thing they chose to do it because "They knew better than God" Secular Nations BY THEIR DEFINITION are willful antagonists toward any and all religions.

secular /sĕk′yə-lər/

adjective

1. Worldly rather than spiritual.
   "the secular affairs of the parish."
2. Not relating to religion or to a religious body; nonreligious.
   "secular music."
3. Not bound by the full monastic rule of a religious order. Used of clergy.

 
This is the state of Israel's current government THEY ARE NOT SPIRITUAL; NONRELIGIOUS; DON'T FOLLOW GOD'S RULE PERIOD END OF LESSON!

Can they repent and come back into the promise YES but that's my whole point here IF THEY DON'T THEY ARE NOT CHOSEN as the obedient servants of God as Abraham was.  

The vineyard, the valley, the door, the song—they’re all pieces of a love story where betrayal gets rewritten into reconciliation. 

Other prophets like Jeremiah (31:12) and Ezekiel (36:29-30) echo this too, with restored land and joy as signs of God’s favor kicking back in.

But it must be clearly understood that ISRAEL was never meant to be a Secular Nation God does not work with unbelief which is what a secular people hold as their belief system in running a Government- even if religions exist within it they are 2nd to its secular system of laws!

God never wanted Israel to have a King like other Nations.

WHY?

💥Because according to his promise HE ALONE WAS TO BE THEIR KING not some Man who later he rejected as King because he thought he knew better than God.💥

So that makes clear he does not chose based upon government based systems of kingships but simply because God made Covenant with a Man who left his Pagan family background to trust in a God he did not understand nor know until he made covenant by walking between the sacrifice HIMSELF.

In doing so God made lawful covenant with himself based upon his promise to Abraham to fulfill all the promises he made; he being the sacrifice made through Jesus' death.

The Promises were made to a man's obedience to God BUT THOSE PROMISES CAN ONLY BE FULFILLED IN A PEOPLE OF FAITH at no time can or did God promise it to a secular atheistic Nation operating outside spiritual mandates of its fulfillment.

So in conclusion POLITICAL SECULAR GOVERNMENTS have no promise from God biblically until its people repent and surrender to God spiritually giving all rule and authority over to him to be controlled by his kingship!